Comments for Northland Poker.com - The Upper Midwest's Poker Homepage http://www.northlandpoker.com Wed, 14 Apr 2010 12:41:45 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 Comment on How to play this hand? by petek http://www.northlandpoker.com/steves-blog/how-to-play-this-hand/comment-page-1/#comment-159 petek Wed, 14 Apr 2010 12:41:45 +0000 http://www.northlandpoker.com/?p=1201#comment-159 Yep, when you are down to 11bb you need to be thinking about spots to shove over preflop raises where you either have a strong hand and are doing it for value or for some reason you think you have some fold equity, i.e the button min raises and does that 100% of the time on the button and you have 89ss in the big blind or something. Other than stealing/restealing you can't be calling raises and putting a big percent of your stack in without initiative or any plan other than "I hope I flop something". This is what separates top tournament players from players who break even/lose over time because they make very good decisions with 10-20 big blinds. Yep, when you are down to 11bb you need to be thinking about spots to shove over preflop raises where you either have a strong hand and are doing it for value or for some reason you think you have some fold equity, i.e the button min raises and does that 100% of the time on the button and you have 89ss in the big blind or something. Other than stealing/restealing you can’t be calling raises and putting a big percent of your stack in without initiative or any plan other than “I hope I flop something”. This is what separates top tournament players from players who break even/lose over time because they make very good decisions with 10-20 big blinds.

]]> Comment on How to play this hand? by caeslinger http://www.northlandpoker.com/steves-blog/how-to-play-this-hand/comment-page-1/#comment-158 caeslinger Tue, 13 Apr 2010 16:15:13 +0000 http://www.northlandpoker.com/?p=1201#comment-158 There is absolutely no question but to fold here. You are WELL past the point of taking a chance with a hand like 89s for the price. Pot odds are meaningless in a situation like this. Calling and leaving yourself with 260K when you lose a minimum of 25% of that every round - is too great of a risk when your (usually) best hope is to hit a DRAW of some sort. As far as after the flop - nothing is happening differently if you shove - they both call. AA still shoves and the limper with his 15 outs is calling every day - we know this because of his 2 mistakes preflop (limping and calling a raise). Whether it happened as explained, BB bets, limper shoves - or BB check, limper bets, BB shoves - or any other way, those chips are going in. There is absolutely no question but to fold here. You are WELL past the point of taking a chance with a hand like 89s for the price. Pot odds are meaningless in a situation like this. Calling and leaving yourself with 260K when you lose a minimum of 25% of that every round – is too great of a risk when your (usually) best hope is to hit a DRAW of some sort.

As far as after the flop – nothing is happening differently if you shove – they both call. AA still shoves and the limper with his 15 outs is calling every day – we know this because of his 2 mistakes preflop (limping and calling a raise).

Whether it happened as explained, BB bets, limper shoves – or BB check, limper bets, BB shoves – or any other way, those chips are going in.

]]> Comment on How to play this hand? by CarpePM http://www.northlandpoker.com/steves-blog/how-to-play-this-hand/comment-page-1/#comment-157 CarpePM Fri, 09 Apr 2010 23:27:55 +0000 http://www.northlandpoker.com/?p=1201#comment-157 You started the hand with about 11BB. I think you are at the point where you fold or shove PF. The limper should be at that point as well. BB has you covered, but you didn't say by how much. I know the temptation of calling with those cards, and maybe the BB lets you see a flop if he is not aggressive or his stack size isn't big enough to let him shove you around. That's all you can hope for and if you think the 15000 is expendable knowing you will have to dump the hand if you miss or if the BB raises, then go ahead. Once you are raised especially with that 'please call' raise, not a bigger 'please fold' raise, calling it would be a mistake, as it was for the limper. The 'winner' of the hand was lucky as he hit, though he called where he should have open-shoved or even shoving after the raise would have been better than what he did. Additionally, the Fundamental Theorem of poker says you would be doing the right thing by folding. You started the hand with about 11BB. I think you are at the point where you fold or shove PF. The limper should be at that point as well. BB has you covered, but you didn’t say by how much. I know the temptation of calling with those cards, and maybe the BB lets you see a flop if he is not aggressive or his stack size isn’t big enough to let him shove you around. That’s all you can hope for and if you think the 15000 is expendable knowing you will have to dump the hand if you miss or if the BB raises, then go ahead. Once you are raised especially with that ‘please call’ raise, not a bigger ‘please fold’ raise, calling it would be a mistake, as it was for the limper. The ‘winner’ of the hand was lucky as he hit, though he called where he should have open-shoved or even shoving after the raise would have been better than what he did. Additionally, the Fundamental Theorem of poker says you would be doing the right thing by folding.

]]> Comment on How to play this hand? by Jack http://www.northlandpoker.com/steves-blog/how-to-play-this-hand/comment-page-1/#comment-156 Jack Fri, 09 Apr 2010 15:35:15 +0000 http://www.northlandpoker.com/?p=1201#comment-156 Now that you have clarified the raise size, I think folding was the correct play. At first I thought you meant he raised TO 60,000, which is a min raise and makes things interesting. With the raise to 90,000 (standard) I think folding was the best option especially considering your goal of the tournament, which was to make the TV table. Next time we are swapping % again! lol... Now that you have clarified the raise size, I think folding was the correct play. At first I thought you meant he raised TO 60,000, which is a min raise and makes things interesting. With the raise to 90,000 (standard) I think folding was the best option especially considering your goal of the tournament, which was to make the TV table. Next time we are swapping % again! lol…

]]> Comment on How to play this hand? by Steve http://www.northlandpoker.com/steves-blog/how-to-play-this-hand/comment-page-1/#comment-155 Steve Fri, 09 Apr 2010 15:07:32 +0000 http://www.northlandpoker.com/?p=1201#comment-155 the raise was 60,000 more. he raised to 90,000. the raise was 60,000 more. he raised to 90,000.

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